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RE: IBM not helping
~Umberto Nongeroson 14.May.03 01:32 PM a Web browser
Domino Server 6.0.1 Windows 2000


No offense Ed, but you're not hearing what we're saying. Sure, the top end of the corporation is making the right noises. *But the people at the coalface - the sales reps - are very definitely not*

Read the last few messages again. Look for the common thread. It's not IBM, the corporation. It's those representatives of IBM out there trying to bully the customer into WebSphere, no matter what they want or what is best for them.

I can understand that to a degree - a WebSphere sale is always going to be a bigger sale than a Domino one - thus bigger commissions. This is good in the short-term for the sales rep, but it's a poor long-term strategy for the company.

I think what I'm trying to say is that you should stop trying to sell the strategy and direction to us - we're already convinced. Go down and sell it to the sales force. Make it clear to them, and make sure that they make it clear to the clients - because that's where the nervousness is.

Stephen Lister




Survey: Websphere Anyone? (~Lily Deskrover... 13.May.03)
. . Websphere either/or (~Lily Deskrover... 13.May.03)
. . RE: Survey: Websphere Anyone? (~Carol Kijumite... 13.May.03)
. . . . just curious, where to, and why? eo... (~Mario Cislugon... 13.May.03)
. . . . . . RE: just curious, where to, and why... (~Carol Kijumite... 13.May.03)
. . . . . . . . RE: just curious, where to, and why... (~Mario Cislugon... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: just curious, where to, and why... (~Carol Kijumite... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: just curious, where to, and why... (~Holly Minjipyb... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . IBM not helping (~Paul Ektoogenj... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: IBM not helping (~Mario Cislugon... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: IBM not helping (~Holly Minjipyb... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . OK, I get that (~Mario Cislugon... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . just like I posted above... (~Lisa Lopresach... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: just like I posted above... (~Holly Minjipyb... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: IBM not helping (~Paul Ektoogenj... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Agreed. Marketing, advertising visi... (~Dan Nimponekon... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . RE: just curious, where to, and why... (~Hal Nonamarli 14.May.03)
. . . . . . RE: just curious, where to, and why... (~Naomi Deskrote... 14.May.03)
. . RE: Survey: Websphere Anyone? (~Lily Deskrover... 21.May.03)
. . RE: Survey: Websphere Anyone? (~Hal Nonamarli 13.May.03)
. . . . RE: Survey: Websphere Anyone? (~Fritz Elnuader... 13.May.03)
. . . . . . RE: Survey: Websphere Anyone? (~Delores Dwonic... 13.May.03)
. . . . . . . . *I think many of us get the impress... (~Yentl Quetkrot... 13.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . Then you are misinformed... (~Lisa Lopresach... 13.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Then you are misinformed... (~Hal Nonamarli 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . What I heard about the WAS Sales pu... (~Zach Prevelust... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please see my post above eom> (~Lisa Lopresach... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Then you are misinformed... (~Naomi Deskrote... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . * 'IBM regards it as a toy' nails i... (~Dan Nimponekon... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hear! Hear! eom> (~Paul Ektoogenj... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . * Good to hear Alan. Thx. =B-) eom>... (~Dan Nimponekon... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Let's say "Have been misinformed" s... (~Vijay Churesas... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Then you are misinformed... (~Holly Minjipyb... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . the undermining is what worries me ... (~Tanita Asaboos... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . deleted> (~Dan Nimponekon... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . this is the problem... (~Lisa Lopresach... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . That's exactly why I keep reminding... (~Tanita Asaboos... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Preaching to the converted (~Paul Ektoogenj... 14.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . That's just marketing tho' - no-one... (~Delores Dwonic... 13.May.03)
. . . . . . . . . . . . yeah, I can't imagine how many time... (~Mario Cislugon... 13.May.03)
. . . . * That echos my observations too. =... (~Dan Nimponekon... 14.May.03)


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